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  1. Oops, well, they did “link” this blog has been acting crazy lately. If you are having ANY kind of problem with posting or reading, PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP at Oxdrover1946 at gmail.com Thanks.

  2. Joyce, thank you SO much for posting this information. For those of us who have fought these legal battles of futility, it all resonates, painfully.

    Abusers do not “love” their children, just as they do not “love” their adult victims. Once an abuser, ALWAYS an abuser, and any Court that maintains that it was the ADULT victim that was the target of the abuse is utterly demented. The abuse permeates throughout the entire family, and even the adult victim becomes a perpetrator (TRIANGULATION), even as they are being abused.

    It HAS to change. It simply HAS to, or this epidemic will reach epic proportions.

  3. Truthy, I think it HAS reached epic proportions already…I think it always has been there, and child abuse and wife abuse was a part of society…I think in many instances that fewer wives were NOT abused than WERE abused, ditto with children. In Arkansas there was a law well up in to the 1960s that a man could beat his wife with a stick as long as the big end was not larger than his thumb. No, lie, Truthy, that was a LAW here.

  4. Nevermind about not being able to log in here Joyce… I finally figured it out obviously. lol

    The stick thing is what is commonly referred to as ‘the rule of thumb’. Although thankfully it is more commonly used with no reference whatsoever as to beating anyone with a stick.

    It’s is amazing how f’ed up our legal ‘system’ has gotten. I won’t say become, because it has been this way and this (and likely more) has been going on for a long time.

    We can only hope it will change, but the wheels of justice are often slow to turn. It didn’t get this way overnight and certainly won’t turn around as fast either, but in the meanwhile we do our best to do what we can to fix a system so broken it is almost beyond recognition.

  5. Pixie, I emotionally BLEED for these protective parents and my friend “Jane” currently has had her custody of her son given to the abuser and she has only supervised visit and the little boy is TERRIFIED of his father…..I am glad for associations like this though that band together in their pain to try to get notice for the unjust situations for these children. They are all in my prayers.

    • Joyce, yes – the Rule Of Thumb as Pixie mentioned. Not that long ago, women and offspring were still viewed as chattel. Property. Livestock.

      I’ve had my own battles in Family Court for Mike and Bob. And, there is NOTHING like a dance in Family Court with an abusive sociopath. I was unable to process how UNFAIR rulings were – they weren’t based upon anything substantial and involved court-appointed psychiatric evaluations that were clearly performed by a misogynistic A-hole. I was the first to be “evaluated,” and the A-hole apparently told the exspath that I had disclosed violent physical, emotional, and sexual abuse in the marriage because his report stated (and, I quote), “Mr Spath vehemently denies any allegations of abuses.”

      Well……………………DUH? Like an abuser involved in a bitter custody battle is going to say, “Oh, right…..yeah, I beat the crap out of my wife and forced her to perform distasteful sexual acts in exchange for groceries. Right. I sure did.” ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Oh, my………children in the middle of these types of battles with an abusive parents have NO VOICE. The only “voice” that they DO have is that of a frantic parent that is so desperate to protect their child that they appear to be lunatics.

      Unjust……..I thoroughly agree.

  6. Here’s the latest news letter from this group

    CA Protective Parents Association


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    Stop Family Courts From Sending Children To Live With Their Abusers

    A message from the Stop Abuse Campaign

    Give children the right to a safe home to grow up in

    Thank you to Andrew and Ken!

    The state of our family and divorce courts is a mess.

    We’re hoping you’ll help us fix them by signing this Causes.com petition.

    Dear Friends,

    In 1994 Holly Collins became an international fugitive when she grabbed her
    three children and went on the run. It all happened because a family court had
    ignored Holly’s charges, the children’s pleas, Holly’s broken nose, Zackary’s
    fractured skull, and other medical evidence of domestic violence. The family
    court in Minnesota gave full custody of Zackary and Jennifer to Holly’s
    ex-husband. It was at that point that Holly came to believe she and the children
    had No Way Out But One.


    Contested custody cases are often mishandled. They make up 15% of overall divorce
    cases, and that’s a lot of children. This exposes children who have already
    been abused to further damaging trauma.

    Today many court professionals have been mistrained to be highly skeptical of
    reports of domestic violence and child abuse in divorce cases. As a result,
    children are being taken from safe parents and forced by courts to live in the
    homes where they report being beaten and raped.

    Research shows that when batterers request custody, 7 times out of 10 they receive

    When children report sexual abuse in custody cases more than 9 out of 10 of
    them are placed in the partial or full custody of their identified perpetrators.

    The children are doubly harmed because the critical attachment to their primary
    caregiver is also broken.

    Billions of our taxpayer dollars are wasted needlessly every year when our children
    are exposed to more abuse. The outcome is always great suffering for these children
    but as we all know it can also lead to their deaths.

    After hearing testimony on the abject failure of family and divorce courts to
    keep our children safe Congressman John Conyers was appalled.

    He later wrote:

    “At the Congressional briefing, as the ranking member of the House Judiciary
    Committee, I, John Conyers, called for an oversight hearing to assess where
    we are in our work on the impact of domestic violence on children, and what
    more can be done.”

    The United States must be proactive in ensuring the physical and sexual safety
    of abused children of divorce and separation. We demand Congress hold oversight
    hearings on this matter.

    Please sign this Causes.com petition and share it with your friends. It’s the
    only thing that works.


    Just copy and paste this URL into your URL bar at the top of your internet page.


    In addition, join us in person on National Safe Child Day, October 1, 2013
    at the White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW at 11:00 am to protest
    courts taking children from safe mothers and giving them to child abusers. We
    will march to the US Capitol to demand Congressional oversight hearings.

    The state of America’s children must be something we all care about. Our children
    are counting on us.


    CA Protective Parents Association | | [email protected] |
    P. O. Box 15284

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